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At the Changed Podcast, we try to bring you stories by people from whom you want to hear stories! Each episode is a different conversation, a different approach to thinking about change. Some people are driven by intuition, some by rebellion, and many profoundly pivotal moments have been triggered by pain in life. Whatever the inspiration, the changes our guests have experienced and the stories they share are profoundly vulnerable things to share.
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"How I Survived The Killing Fields"
Season 3, Episode 54
This episode I'm talking to Sara Im
Sara Im has life lessons and gained wisdom that impacts others due to her experience of surviving the mass genocide of Cambodia. Her inspirational Award-Winning Book " How I Survived The Killing Fields” was honored in 2015. As a Speaker, she shares how tenacity, perseverance , and faith are required values to conquer fear and reach success.
Here's what you'll find in this episode:
00:00 Meet Sara Im, author of "How I Survived the Killing Fields"
00:54 Sara's story
17:00 Interview with Sara Im
23:04 How Sara's mother and brothers survived
24:57 Sara reflects on what 'change' means to her, answers questions from the Change Hub Ibble community and more.
39:42 Final thoughts from Sara Im
41:44 Final thoughts from the host
You can purchase a copy of Sara's book here: https://www.saraim.com/book
Allan “Alonzo” Wild’s Andean Adventures and Beyond
Season 3, Episode #53
Allan J. "Alonzo" Wind is a retired Senior Foreign Service Officer from the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), having worked on and off with the Agency primarily overseas on diplomatic assignments from 1990 to 1992 and 1999 to 2019 in the Peru, Nicaragua, Angola, Nigeria, Iraq, Afghanistan and South Africa and the Southern Africa USAID Regional Missions. He provided oversight to U.S. government foreign aid development and humanitarian assistance, and supported U.S. Ambassadors as their senior development officer on multiple U.S. Embassy Country Teams.
What's inside this episode:
00:00 Meet Alonzo!
02:04 Allan J. "Alonzo" Wind's story
05:53 Interview begins with the question "Where in the world are you right now AJ?" (hint: somewhere in the Middle East...)
07:31 A discussion of the historical and current political climate regarding the Israeli/Palestinian conflict
20:50 Is peace in the middle east possible?
24:20 AJ's life as an explorer: when you call so many places home, where does it feel like home-base?
26:10 AJ's dip into Science Fiction Writing
30:15 How our moments that change us shape our view of the world and of our selves
33:00 AJ's thoughts on what it takes to change people's minds
41:25 Oversimplifying solutions to big problems/Actively seeking to shift your own perspective.
47:22 Final thoughts from guest, AJ "Alonzo" Wild
49:23 Closing thoughts from the host
Helpful Links related to this discussion:
- Visit Alonzo Wind's website to read AJ's blog, get a copy of his recent memoir Andean Adventures and more.
- Watch Fauda on Netflix
- Read John McWhorter's controversial book, Woke Racism
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Bo Roberts and a Message from Beyond
Season 3, episode 52
This episode I'm talking to model, actor, & film maker Bo Roberts
From the pages of GQ, Cosmo, and Esquire, to the silver screen ("300: Rise of an Empire", "Mindy Project," etc.), Indian-born, ISU-grad, former corrections officer/CERT Team member, filmmaker Bo Roberts elevated his photography hobby to a career as a filmmaker. The director/cinematographer's debut (short) feature film (60min), "The Great Awakening" is a thriller with science-fiction elements.
Here's what you'll find in this episode:
0:34 meet Bo Roberts
1:43 Bo Roberts Story
8:33 An interview of Bo Roberts, beginning with some discussion of recent film project, The Great Awakening. Our discussion includes how he came to choose that particular title and more.
17:09 Bo talks about moving from in front of the camera as a model and actor to behind the camera as a film maker.
26:23 Bo's reflection on the meaning of change
28:49 The perspective shifting experience of working as a corrections officer
34:43 Grandpas, Ghosts, and making sense of the supernatural
41:07 Final thoughts from Bo
44:07 Final thoughts from the host
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We're kicking off season 3 with THE GIGI Rowe!
Season 3, episode 51
About Gigi Rowe
The multi-faceted Gigi Rowe was called "fantastically talented" by the one-and-only Jay Z. The singer, songwriter, children's book author and children's podcast creator was formerly signed to Island Def Jam Records by the legendary LA Reid. Gigi was the first-ever recipient of the Songwriter Hall of Fame Buddy Holly Prize (from Songmasters) and she has had songs featured on the globally-adored interactive video game Just Dance.
Gigi is the voice of summer TV on Netflix and Amazon, with two songs prominently featured on Amazon's new Prime Video dating series The One That Got Away, that premiered in late June and Netflix series Boo, Bitch, which premiered in early July. Gigi Rowe's debut album Laura is out September 30.
In this episode Gigi shares her experience being signed to Island Def Jam records, only to be dropped before she could pop. We bond over a love of wigs. She goes into great depth about her collaboration with Tik Tokker Claybaby
Here's what you'll find in this episode:
01:36 Gigi Rowe shares her story
08:24 We move into my interview of Gigi Rowe
11:40 Some indulgent bonding time over a couple of wigs
21:34 Lonely Together
23:17 The wig comes off...
23:48 Gigi talks about collaborating with TikTok star Claybaby
40:49 How Laura Warshauer came to know and understand Gigi Rowe
43:05 All about Gigi's latest album Laura
45:12 The story of a magical recording moment on a farm in New Jersey
48:15 Gigi's thoughts on change, personal evolution and shifting how you think about things
54:33 A few closing thoughts from the host
- Gigi Rowe + Claybaby = Song: So Iconic! - Here's one of the absolute best songs ever! It's the brain child of Tik Tokker Clababy and Singer Gigi Rowe: So Iconic
- Lollipops music video on YouTube - Speaking of bonding over wigs... this is the music video where Gigi's love of wigs became completely apparent!
- Laura - The Latest album from Gigi Rowe - Listen to Gigi Rowe's latest release.
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The first episode is here! This episode of the Changed Podcast KIDS features Maxwell from Austin, Texas.
Amelia and I are so excited! Our first conversation is finally available for you to listen to!
Maxwell is 7 years old and lives in Texas. He loves animals, video games, imagination games, dinosaurs, and chocolate!
And... he is actually the reason we are even doing this project!
That's right! The whole idea came from a conversation Maxwell had with his mama, who then made a joke that became the best idea in the whole wide world.
In this conversation, we learned that:
- Kids know a lot of stuff
- That you can be brave even when something scary (like falling off your bike happens)
- That sometimes grownups are more scared than kids (according to Maxwell, the fun stuff in particular!)
- And our co-host, Amelia, discovered that she actually had a lot in common with Maxwell, even though they live far apart.
Amelia says: "You can learn a lot in one hour. For the time we recorded, me and maxwell both got hungry afterward!"
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This episode is not just the 50th episode of this podcast (WOW!), but it also brings to a close an amazing second season of this show. What better guest than Nancy Davis Kho, host of the Midlife Mixtape Podcast, and author of the book: The Thank You Project, Cultivating Happiness One Letter of Gratitude at a Time.
Nancy Davis Kho is a speaker, author, and podcaster whose work has appeared in the Washington Post, San Francisco Chronicle, and NPR affiliate KQED. Nancy is also the author of the book THE THANK-YOU PROJECT: Cultivating Happiness One Letter of Gratitude at a Time published by Running Press.
Nancy covers “the years between being hip and breaking one” at MidlifeMixtape.com and on the Midlife Mixtape Podcast, available on all major podcast platforms. The Midlife Mixtape Podcast won a 2020 Iris Award as Podcast of the Year and was included in the Wall Street Journal’s list of 8 Podcasts for Anyone Nervously Facing Retirement.
Nancy has also been both champion and judge in the acclaimed international comedy-lit improv show, Literary Death Match! More on Nancy can be found on her website, at www.DavisKho.com.
And for the 50th episode of The Changed Podcast, which also brings to an end the second season of the show, I could not think of a better guest than Nancy Davis Kho!
I like to think that I express my gratitude often and well, but Nancy has dug deeper than arguably the majority of us, and certainly far deeper than I have, producing 50 separate thank you letters, not just to people but to places, and whole swaths of the entertainment industry that have shaped her, inspired her and helped her become who she is today. Clearly, we can all learn something about saying thank you from someone who has really put in the time and effort to do so as thoroughly as Nancy Davis Kho.
What's in this episode?
- A longer than necessary discussion as to whether or not Nancy and I have met before, or if we just look like other people (spoiler alert, we look like other people
- A midlife specific on the moments that shape us
- the reality that reaching midlife means you have seen and experienced some pretty significant things
- Thoughts on the gifts overcoming struggle, loss, and challenge can leave us with
- The relationship between grief and processing change (shoutout to previous guest Andrew Williams!)
- Does empathy come with age and experience?
- Two book suggestions! 1) The Other Bennet Sister by Janice Hadlow and 2) Sweetbitter by Stephanie Danler
- Nancy's journey of writing two books (and then 50 letters of gratitude later) and then a third book!
- Lessons learned from saying thank you, and more importantly thinking about the specific reasons you are grateful
- A long closing statement from me expressing gratitude for all of you who listen to the show, and read the show notes! (You're the best!)
- Shoutouts to the Super Seven (the first seven guests of this show) Mary Jo Pehl, Mo Daviau, Dr. Rick Kirschner, BJ Lange, Nadine Montaghami, Dr. Rick Brinkman, and Guillermo Martinez (have you seen The Mitchell's vs the Machines yet??? WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR???)
A few Memorable Quotes from Nancy
"I think if you haven't been tossed around a little bit, by the time you hit your 40s and 50s, you are in a very, very tiny minority. Because it's just, I mean, it's just life. Life knocks us around a little bit. And what I think is really beautiful about it is the way that it makes us more empathetic."
"Sometimes when you're going through the transformation, it's well oftentimes it's painful, you don't want to go through it, you're resistant. But midlife gives you that benefit of perspective where you can look back and say, Oh, that's why I took that job. Oh, that's why I moved to that city. That all makes sense now in retrospect."
"I didn't publish my first book till I was 52. So if you're a writer out there who has not yet had two books rejected and hit the age of 50, like, Don't worry, you're doing great. Like just hang in there, keep writing."
"As I hit the half-century mark, I was very fortunate, you know. My parents were around. Good marriage. Kids are great friends, you know, and I knew that I shouldn't take that for granted. I think by the time you hit that number, you've seen enough, you've experienced enough to know that that's not always going to be the case, it's not the case for everybody. And so it almost felt like tempting fate to not just put some gratitude about that out into the world."
"I wrote to the cities that I had lived in, I wrote to live music because, by the end, I was like nutso. I was like if I can write these and they don't have to have a mailing address... I wrote to Jane Austen, for instance, I wrote to the live music industry because I do love my concerts. But I couldn't send that anywhere. I think it's great for people to look at the things that make them who they are, and hold them up and make them interesting and vibrant and express some gratitude for that. And however and whenever they came into your life, that was a turning point. That was a change for you. So who were you before that? And who are you now that you've had that exposure to whatever it is the city, the hobby, the person, you know?
That's a wrap!!
Thank you for supporting the Changed Podcast. Thank you for reading the show notes! Many thanks and much gratitude to all of the guests who made season two of The Changed Podcast so incredibly inspiring.
Now... it's time to get excited for a sweet mini-season brought to you by me and my new co-host... my kid!
In Episode 49 of The Changed Podcast Wade McCollum, who has acted on Broadway, in film, and on TV, shares his unique experiences with time, the profound & the mundane, and two stories that illustrate the relationship between our expectations, understanding of ourselves, and our realities.
You may have heard of Wade McCollum. As an American film actor, stage actor, composer, and musician, Wade is best known for his roles as Hedwig in Hedwig and the Angry Inch, and Ernest Shackleton in Ernest Shackleton loves me for which he won the Norton Award for Best Actor and was nominated for the Lortel Award in the same category.
These days, he can be found buried in his neuroscience textbooks as a student at the University of Pennsylvania.
Wade is truly remarkable and multi-talented, so it may be no surprise that like previous guests Maraya Brown and Lou Radja, Wade is also an alum of Ashland High School. Like many of the programs at Ashland High School, The drama program at AHS is one of the best (thanks to the brilliant thinking of Betsy Bishop marrying the program to the prestigious Oregon Shakespeare Festival, which continually attracts some of the world's top talent).
All of that is to say that any time I get to sit down and talk with Wade McCollum, it carries simultaneously that sweet feeling of the relief I associate with what is most familiar, AND the excitement of what's new because both of our lives are filled with shifts, changes, and curiosity. There is just so very much to talk about!
This may just be my favorite interview of the season!
What's in this episode?
- How this actor's brain handles memorization
- Why Wade wasn't able to be part of season 1 as originally planned
- How having and recovering from Covid effected Wade
- A rich discussion of human adaptation
- Why #youchanged would make an excellent complement to give!
- The incredible contrast of human interpretation. My mundane can be your profound, and vice versa
- How our earliest experiences shape our assumptions about what other people's lives should look like
- How we digest other people's stories to represent profound meaning to ourselves as humans
- Two stories that demonstrate how our expectations and understanding of reality aren't always well met.
- A glimpse into the exciting realm of Medical Music and why Wade is now studying neuroscience after decades of making a living as a performer.
A few memorable things Wade McCollum said:
"I'm up there thinking, you know what, there's 3000 people watching the show right now... they're having that fulcrum experience where they may never be the same. And I'm literally at my office job. The juxtaposition of that is so incredible"
"When you're born into something, the assumption is that's life. That's life, and there's no other, you know, there's no other way to do it, because that's the way it's done."
"They said, 'We're the, we're the different ones. Most people live in a house. And they stay there. And most people don't move around like we do and go from town to town.' Everything just went boom, and suddenly I was the anomaly. And it was so fundamental, I could feel my brain change."
"Humans as a species are like story eaters. Rather than, throw the story up, this is a gross analogy, our tendency is to digest it. And in that process of digestion, there's that refinement, where we're like, 'what nutrients am I going to take from that story that are useful to my particular lens and narrative, what I'm thinking about how I'm looking at the world right now and what I'm working on?' And that's such a beautiful and incredible gift as a human species. what an amazing thing!"
"There's this nonlinear aspect and quantum entanglement piece that where there's this sort of simultaneity. So, in terms of like past or future lives, I get very jumbled up. Because it feels that it's all just happening. And some memories are actually turned out to be future events. So I get very... I just get confused. It feels way more spherical, or, you know, tutori. The geometry of time does not feel like a line for me."
There is only one more episode left in the season!
But, we won't be on hiatus long... The Changed Podcast is cooking up a very exciting mini-series co-hosted by the original inspiration for the show: my step-daughter!
Episode 48 of the Changed Podcast features Dr. Ian Brooks, on the power of mindset, living a life of intention (which includes Netflix and chips!), and his own self-determination even as he narrowly escaped the wreckage of a collision in his own fork-in-the-road story.
Dr. Ian Brooks started off working in a clinical psychology ward eventually transitioning to work with "higher functioning individuals."
Over the span of his 25+ year career helping people move forward. He's worked with clients that include Netflix, Shondaland, Bank of America, Guitar Center, Nike Inc. Sony, and Warner Brothers.
Most recently, Dr. Brooks is the author of Intention: Building Capabilities to Transform Your Story which integrates research and personal journey that drives readers toward introspection and action.
His contagious smile and upbeat demeanor might fool you into thinking achieving Transformation is easy! And it is! But also, it's challenging, it's hard work, and it absolutely takes intention. Our conversation weaves through the ins and outs of intentional transformation, what the nuances are between transformation and change, and the difference that intention makes throughout all of it.
What's in this episode?
- The differences in getting patient compliance in a closed setting, like a lockdown facility vs the open setting of the general population
- The difference between achieving personal transformation, and making personal changes
- The relationship between fear of change and the power of belief when it comes to transformation
- Why Ian doesn't cry anymore
- How Dr. Brook's book, is really a second draft, which serves as an excellent reminder that failure isn't always failure and that we have a choice about how we move forward from setbacks
- How easy it is to let challenges stop us from doing the good and important things in life
- Ian's personal fork-in-the-road story from a moment when he was in a motorcycle accident
- How living with purpose and intention does not mean that you don't get to also enjoy spacing out, eating chips, and lazing on the couch watching Netflix
A few memorable things Ian Brooks said in this interview:
"We only have 24 hours in this day. We were only promised the next second. That's it. And I can't tell you what I'm going to do with that next second. But I can tell you that it's going to be done with purpose. I don't want to waste time."
"If you want to kick your feet up and eat a whole bag of potato chips and watch Netflix all day, you're doing with that purpose, whether you realize it or not. Now, if your purpose is really to go out there and exercise, well, then that's a different conversation. But you're still doing what you're doing with purpose because you are doing it intentionally, and that's okay. It isn't always necessarily outcome-based. Sometimes that purpose is: I just need to get lost in my thoughts."
"I can do more than what I'm defined by in this motorcycle injury or otherwise."
"The power of the mind is very interesting. As we think about fear, and the reasons why we don't do certain things, or even potentially the reasons we do, it's very interesting in the context of specifically, this idea of change. Because we do things quite a bit out of fear, not necessarily providing the context around, how do we actually move forward?"
"Change is: I can get someone to do something one day, in a particular moment in time, and just taking very targeted steps to do something different. That's a lot different than transformation, which I think a lot of people are really reaching for. And that is building it into your fabric of who you are."
Josh Braun, the host of the Inside Selling Podcast, shares his thoughts on why it's so critical to learn how to listen fully, how sales superpowers are really just human communication superpowers and the moment that shifted ALL of his priorities.
Josh Braun is known for helping people learn to sell without being salesy, creepy, sleazy, and without selling their souls.
We met back in 2006 when he hired me for my first exciting grown-up job working as a comedy writer for an educational software product.
Yes. You read that sentence correctly.
I'll never forget this particular fork-in-the-road moment: I had just come home from my absolutely awful temp position processing mortgage applications, and I'd decided I was done. I hated my job and knew I had so many other skills to offer, but didn't really have any clue what I was looking for. It was 11 pm at night by the time I found the unconventional job posting in the Gigs section of Craigslist that sounded like it was written by a human who was introducing themselves at a friend's house. It was written in such a funny voice, I thought it might be some kind of joke!
Feeling punchy and like I had nothing to lose, I went ahead and responded to the ad. This was a job where humans seemed like they might actually get to act like humans, and I wanted a piece of that!
With unbelievable amounts of honesty that included fun facts about my work ethic and my t-shirt collection, I made sure that the flirtiest, goofiest, biggest, and boldest parts of my personality showed up to the cover letter party. I wasn't trying to be the person that fit the role. I wanted to be the human that these humans were excited to meet.
At 1:30 am I sent the cover letter and my resume to the email address provided. The phone rang just before 8 am that same morning. It was Josh's voice on the other end of the line "That's the best cover letter I've ever read. No joke, I'm framing it and putting it on my wall."
While both of our paths have taken us away from the kind of work we shared at that particular company in 2006, the elements that brought us together in the first place have remained a priority for both of us in our separate endeavors: simple, humble, human communication.
I use these skills to teach storytelling and to help teams work well with each other. He uses these skills to teach sales; but, we're not just teachers. We're students too.
What's in this episode?
- Why trying to change people's minds feels frustrating
- What you might want to try instead
- Why it's helpful to shine a light on the cost of inaction
- What is Motivational Interviewing? Why is it helpful?
- How modern technology is affecting the way we communicate
- What happened to cause Josh to realize that instead of money, he needed to prioritize the moments and the people in life that he cares about the most.
Memorable Things Josh Braun Said:
"You don't control other people. You don't control your revenue number, you don't control how people respond to your message. You don't control your quota. You don't control if people are going to hang up on you. You don't control if something's going to change. You only control what is in your nature to be able to control: what you say, what you want to do, how you conduct yourself, how you behave, and your thoughts."
"When we start to change people's minds, we often are met with resistance because people don't like it when other people take away their freedom to choose you telling a teenager to stop smoking naturally start to smoke more, it's actually something called the backfire effect."
"The secret skill is to actually make the other person feel heard. That is a skill that a lot of people take for granted-- listening--because we do it all the time. And it's a tragedy because unless we realize that understanding and listening is a skill that in fact can be learned and mastered, like painting or playing an instrument, you lose the opportunity to get better at it."
"You think you have this time; and you think it's really unlimited, especially when you're young. But you really don't. I mean, if you see your mom, I don't know, once a year and she's 70... Maybe you could see her five or six more times. Maybe you have seven times left. So it really taught me to reevaluate the things that I value. And ever since then I've been reprioritizing my time over money."
"I've kind of learned this as I've gotten older. I've had some real lows, career and personally. And you think the world's ending, but really, it's, it's okay. Like, it's gonna be okay. In the end. None of it really ends up mattering anyway honestly: the deal you lost or the whatever-thing you're going through. Within three or four months, five months, it's going to be better than it was, it's going to be not as bad. It's kind of like this wave up and down, and it all is okay. In the end, everything is going to be okay. In the end, no matter what happens, no matter what you choose... just take the pressure off yourself."
Voice Actor Greg Campbell has a voice as smooth as butter. In Episode 46 of The Changed Podcast, he shares how he found himself making the leap from television to sharing his unique voice narrating films, commercials, and audiobooks. He also opens up about his experience as a black parent who has witnessed so much change and is continuing to witness profound change and the importance of the people who help us along our journeys through life.
Greg Campbell is a Voiceover artist with a distinctive voice. He provided his voice for the 2021 Emmy award-winning documentary Shaw Rising about the oldest HBCU in the south. He has also voiced nationally aired commercials for Ford, during the Kentucky Derby, and Kumho tires featuring NBA All-Star John Wall of the Houston Rockets. He's also the brand voice for the apparel company, Shux.
In our conversation, Greg shared some of his professional journey: starting out in TV in Michigan and ending up performing voiceovers in Florida. He also shared some of his personal journey as a parent and a grandson. Most of all, his story and perspective both serve to highlight how the people we know and connect with throughout our lives, impact the trajectory of our personal experiences, careers and more.
What's in episode 46?
- An introduction to Greg Campbell, not just what he does, but how he IS as a human
- How Greg started out as a voice actor narrating audiobooks
- One of his favorites: Motown Man by Bob Campbell (due to be available in audiobook soon... featuring Greg's dulcet tones), a story that tackles questions of race and identity through the lens of an interracial couple who meet and fall in love in 1991.
- A discussion of what has changed in the conversation on race, in our behaviors, and understanding of each other and history since the 90s
- What is still changing
- The role that family story telling plays in teaching important history
- Carla! (and a thank you to Carla)
- The importance of great friends
- The role of instinct in who and how we trust
- A reference to a 1977 episode of The Bionic Woman that almost became its own show, The Bionic Dog!
A few memorable quotes from Greg Campbell
"Change means to me: there's always something better down the road, something, something good on the way. For me, it's always been like that."
"[Since 1991] I think there's been some changes, you know. Unfortunately, when there is change, there seems to be backlash, too often."
"I think that one of the biggest things with change is fear. I think people you know, live too much in fear a little bit. There's a lot of things that's scary out there, that can scare you. But I've always challenged myself, and just try to just keep going, keep moving, and just allow change to come. You got to embrace it, it comes. Some things you know, you can't control. It's part of it, not being able to control it. But, you know, you look at your experiences, and you say, I'm better for it. I'm glad I've tried to have an open mind and live my life that way."
'What you may see in the news nowadays. You know, they talk about what happened in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and all that. My grandmother told me about that stuff. I mean, I already knew."
"I kind of go by Maya Angelou a little bit, you know, the person tells you who they are the first time. Believe 'em, you know. I kind of live by that a little bit. I mean, because down the road, that first impression means a lot. And so, you know, you see it that day. I think that works both ways. It's kind of projected in a negative way. But I think it's in a positive way as well."
Music in this episode
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